Negligent Discharges

I am not sure how many posts I have made regarding people being careless with guns. There are VERY few accidental discharges. Most so-called accidents can be attributed to people being careless or just plain stupid, hence the more correct term "Negligent Discharge."

A cop: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,459047,00.html
The cop was teaching his daughter how to shoot... "Um, honey, don't listen to him. He's just not the guy you want training you on firearms usage/"

A pro football player: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/11/29/burress.giants.ap/?cnn=yes
Dumbass football player, with a gun in a bar..big no-no and worse, in New York City, which is like the fascist hell for gun laws and gun owners.

Add to this the two guys who shot each other dead in a Toys R Us...geez, what a stellar week for gun owners showing how responsible they are....!

Supply and Demand

The word on the "street" is that many manufactures of EBR (Evil Black Rifles) are a month or two behind on their orders due to increased demand from Obama being elected. The prices of many AR's and Ak's jumped dramatically within hours of Obama being named the next President of the United States. Ammunition for these weapons has also been driven sky high.

On a number of websites, the basic Century AR-15 that was $599 just a month ago is not $699 or more. Entry-level Bushmasters have gone up even more then a $100. A case of 5.56x45 ammo has risen by a third. Surplus 7.62x39mm ammo is up a buck or buck-fifty for just 20 rounds. What the hell?

Even in Obama manages to get gun laws changed, it is not going to happen the day he steps into the White House. These changes take time. People need to stop this panic buying and step back and reaccess the situation. There is plenty of companies that have not raised their prices but that is due to change. Manufacturers are looking to get their share of the panic pricing and are raising their costs to distributors and guess what, those price increases only get passed onto the gun store, who in turn passes on even more of a price increase to the consumer.

There is nothing wrong with getting what you want, when you want it, but geez, panic buying is just dumb. We, the consumer, are the one's eating these cost increases. Does anyone really think the manufacturer, distributor, or even gun store is going to lower their prices once the supposed crisis is over? Not, me. Thanks a lot folks.

Wow. more common sense

Wow. More common sense. Let's not spend money on a feel good program that doesn't work to prevent crime. Makes sense to me.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/4CB8A8E002BAE0D08625750700141D9B?OpenDocument

But board President Chris Goodson said he was against the idea because last year's buyback didn't prevent this year's rising murder rate.

"I'm trying to understand what the benefit is," he told Isom. "If it's to reduce crime, it doesn't seem to have an effect."Board member Vincent J. Bommarito agreed. "I think it's a waste of money," he said.

It's great that people are finally realizing that gun control does not mean crime control. St. Louis has a horrid crime problem compared to comparably sized cities. That same $57k can be used to hire another police officer or upgrade police capabilities. Use the money where it is needed.

Illegals

The virtual motto of those that support amnesty for illegal aliens is that, `these are good, family people who are here to improve their lives. They aren't hurting anyone.'

Well, anyone who lives in an area with a high population of illegal aliens knows that this isn't always true. We read the same papers other people do and know how often the same murderer or rapist from Mexico or elsewhere enters our country over and over and commits their crimes. Not all illegals are violent, but all illegal aliens are lawbreakers. If the first thing you do upon entering my country is break our immigration laws, you are a criminal. I am entirely for anyone who enters my country using the readily available, legal means to do so. Welcome to America. May all your dreams come true. We do not like criminals. We don;t want criminals. Go back to your country and do your crimes. The end.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27853800/

So, here's another criminal who happens to be an illegal alien. This guy gets into an argument and comes out shooting at people. Sure, this could have been anyone, but it is, in fact a criminal who is illegally in the United States. Stop coming to my country to do your illegal activities. I am sure you can get into a bar fight in your home country, too.

Tired of ignorance

I am so tired of the "Liberal" bashing going on in the gun community. I am a Republican. I vote G.O.P. 90% of the time. I voted for McCain. My choice lost. The fight goes on. Seriously, not all Democrats are out to destroy your 2nd Amendment rights and not all Republicans support your 2nd Amendment rights.

It's time to stop ticking off "Liberals" and go after the real cause of our problems--Leftists ! President Lincoln was a liberal, and he was also the first Republican president. Being liberal is not a bad thing. Liberals got women the right to vote, passed Civil Rights legislation, and maternity/paternity rules in place you people can stay home and raise their kids for the first few weeks. These are not bad things.

Liberals was change for the betterment of society. Liberals tend to push for freedoms for all. This is not always the case, but generally so. Liberals want the Bill of Rights enforced and expanded.

Leftists want change for the sack of power. Leftists push towards socialism and further into communism. Leftists seek to subvert the Bill of Rights, including the 2nd Amendment.

Use the right word for the right people.

Insult to injury

Never, ever mix booze and guns. It turns out bad.

Apparently, he violated not only every tenant of good gun handling, he was also stupid. But, adding insult to injury, this guy is in jail for manslaughter of his 6 year old child. I am sure he is going through far more hell then anything the prison and court systems can do to him.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081119/ap_on_re_us/girl_shot
MARYSVILLE, Wash. – A father arrested after his 6-year-old daughter was fatally shot in their Washington state home allegedly told authorities he had been drinking double shots of vodka while cleaning his guns.
Court papers say Richard Peters told detectives he had asked his daughter, Stormy, to bring him the .45-caliber handgun Sunday. He said he must have pulled the trigger, and the girl fell to the floor. She was pronounced dead Monday.
Bail for Peters, 42, was set Monday at $250,000. He has been arrested for investigation of first-degree manslaughter.
His attorney, Annika Carlsten, requested that Peters be released from jail, The Herald newspaper of Everett reported. She argued that Peters isn't a flight risk, or a danger to himself or the community.
"It's obviously a tragedy for all involved and my primary concern is for my client and his family," Carlsten told The Associated Press on Tuesday night, declining to discuss any specifics.
The Snohomish County sheriff's office said two other children were removed from the home by Child Protective Services.

Tax Free

http://www.scnow.com/scp/news/state_regional/south_carolina_state/article/south_carolina_to_have_tax_free_holiday_for_gun_sales/19049/

While the idea of tax free anything would usually make me a happy guy, I am unsure about this move at a time when most states are having budget shortfalls. The more money a state has collected, the more it can spend on schools, roads, etc.

They called it the Second Amendment Recognition Act. I love the name.

Of course, any incentive that brings more people into the gun owning fold is a good thing. Now, if this would turn into a tax free day on car sales....

Really? Who knew it?

Someone has finally opened their eyes to see what the rest of us already knew...

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=d26c29ff-f134-4202-bc40-947534a6de3c

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

More news on gun sales

The news media is eating up the increase in gun sales. They are even quoting guy buyers, the NRA, and even gun store employees as to why there is such a marked increase in sales. This is nice that the media is portraying the sales increase properly, but they are also exasperating the issue, too. The non-stop coverage of this is adding to the buying frenzy as people who weren't thinking about getting a gun or large quantities of ammo are running out to get something ... anything ... while it's still available.

In linking this article, it does anger me that the heading for this link is under CNN's "crime" section. It is not against the law to own a gun, in fact it's a protected right.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/11/11/obama.gun.sales/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Bernie Conatser has never seen business this good.

The owner of a gun shop in the Washington suburb of Manassas, Virginia, Conatser said sales have doubled or tripled since this time last year.

On Saturday, he said, he did as much business as he would normally do in a week. "I have been in business for 12 years, and I was here for Y2K, September 11, Katrina," Conatser said, as a steady stream of customers browsed what remained of his stock. "And all of those were big events, and we did notice a spike in business, but nothing on the order of what we are seeing right now."

Weapons dealers in much of the United States are reporting sharply higher sales since Barack Obama won the presidency a week ago. Buyers and sellers attribute the surge to worries that Obama and a Democratic-controlled Congress will move to restrict firearm ownership, despite the insistence of campaign aides that the president-elect supports gun rights and considers the issue a low priority.

According to FBI figures for the week of November 3 to 9, the bureau received more than 374,000 requests for background checks on gun purchasers -- a nearly 49 percent increase over the same period in 2007. Conatser said his store, Virginia Arms Company, has run out of some models -- such as the AR-15 rifle, the civilian version of the military's M-16 -- and is running low on others.

Such assault weapons are among the firearms that gun dealers and customers say they fear Obama will hit with new restrictions, or even take off the market.
Virginia gun owner Kyle Lewandowski said he was buying a .45-caliber pistol to "hedge my bets."

"Every election year, you have to worry about your rights being eroded a little bit at a time," he said. "I also knew, because of the Democrat majority and because of the election, everybody would have the same reaction I did," he added.

Dealers in Colorado, Ohio, Connecticut and New Hampshire also reported seeing major increases.
"It's a fact that the liberal Democrats that now control all three branches of our government do not like guns. They want us out of business," Connecticut resident Scott Hoffman said. "They don't want the average American to have a right to defend themselves."

And New Hampshire gun owner Lloyd Clement said, "I think there's going to be an attack to some degree on the gun owners."

The Clinton administration imposed a ban on several types of military-style semi-automatic rifles and high-capacity magazines in 1994, but that ban was allowed to lapse in 2004. Obama has proposed restoring the ban, requiring background checks for buyers at gun shows, and other "common-sense measures."

He has said he supports the rights of local governments to set their own gun laws, but believes the Second Amendment to the Constitution protects individual gun rights.

"I believe the Second Amendment means something. I do think it speaks to an individual right," Obama said in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, in February.

With the U.S. economy in a tailspin, however, the president-elect's advisers say gun legislation is not a high priority.

"What people do is their own business, and if they decide to go out and buy guns they'll go out and buy guns, assuming that they are eligible to buy guns," John Podesta, the co-chairman of Obama's transition team, told reporters Sunday. "But I think that President-elect Obama has been clear in his campaign that what he wants to focus on is the economy, trying to get jobs growing again, dealing with the health care crisis, and dealing with our dependence on foreign oil."

Some customers are stocking up specifically on ammunition and point to concerns raised by the National Rifle Association, which ran anti-Obama ads during the campaign.

The NRA said Obama would support a "huge new tax on my guns and ammo," referencing a 1999 article in a Chicago newspaper saying the then-Illinois state senator promoted a plan to increase federal taxes by 500 percent on the sales of firearms and ammunition.

But as a state legislator, Obama would not have had any control over federal taxes. And as a U.S. senator and presidential candidate, he has not introduced or promoted such a proposal.

"I don't really believe it is fear. It is more there is just uncertainty," said Virginia customer David Reynolds, who was buying ammunition in the store as well as ordering more online.

"You know, we don't really know what is going on," he said. "There really hasn't been a lot of clear direction on where he supports it, although he says he supports the Second Amendment. But it just remains to be seen. I think some people are just uncomfortable with what his policy may be."

Gun Sales are up

Gun sales are up and still rising. Gun stores are complaining they could make more money if they still had guns to sell.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=6209255&page=1

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/ (Friday, Nov 6th)

So, all retailers are down in sales from last year. Unemployment is up to its highest level since 1999 (6.5%..which isn't all that bad, but not great). Car sales are down about 30% or more from a year ago, and a year ago sales were bad. But, gun sales are up.

Gun sales are up for several reasons. One, when the economy takes a nose give, like in 1982 or after 9/11people go into "fear" mode. Two, when you get a president (elect) who has stated on many occasions that guns have to go and he is going to do anything he can to get rid of them, people go out and hoard guns so they can have them before the new president bans further sales.

Most distributors are out of "black rifles" and those they are selling is at a large premium over what they were two months ago, or a week ago. So, manufacturers are making a lot of money. Distributors are making a lot of money. Gun Stores are making a lot of money. And Joe the Plumber is getting hosed, again.

Gun Sales up

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_10912220

Gun sales are up. Ammo sales are up. Sadly, Gun prices are up and ammo prices are up, too.

"Now that we will have someone who is openly hostile to the right to keep and bear arms in the White House, gun owners and those who hope to one day own guns have woken up and they are nervous," said Hardy.

Ar's and Ak's are already sold out in many places. Apparently, DPMS have already something like 30,000 orders waiting for them, which is something like a 4 month backlog.

Supply and demand. Demand is up and suppliers are taking advantage of us Gun People's nervousness. Damn them.

Pres. Obama

Well, the people have spoken and Barack Obama has been elected President. It wasn't a photo finish, it was a blow out of abotu 7 million people in the popular vote and almost a 2.5 to 1 whopping in electoral votes.

Let us hope he is not as bad as we think he will be. It wasn't even a close race.

I will be back when my head stops spinning.

Election Day

It's finally here. The end of all the bantering, bickering and debating. It's the end of countless ads on TV, none of them saying everything of importance and all of them seeming negative, of late.

By midnight tonight, we should have a good idea who the next President of the United States will be, either Obama or McCain. All the polls are saying Obama is leading, but we Pro-2nds are holding out hope for McCain/Palin.

I voted today. I voted early and there was no line. I was the only person in the voting center, other then the staffers. I got my sticker over my heart and whether McCain wins or loses, I am proud to have voted. I am not sure this is the world changing, monumental election the media keeps portraying it as. In fact, I think this is a rather benign election, compared with some of the amazing elections in the past that changed America: Lincoln, Carter/Reagan, Adams, Hamilton, Jackson, etc.

The biggest two factors of this election is that the next President, may end up putting 2 to 3 Justices on the Supreme Court and the 2nd Amendment. Speech, Religion, and Press are all ok. Obama/Biden have a long history of being anti-guns.

Anywho...best wishes to all of us Pro-2nd people. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.